| By Robert H. Townsend
The investigative interview is a very slippery
slope. When assigned to obtain an interview, an investigator must understand
that his challenge is to accomplish far more than learning the basic fundamentals
of who, what, where, when and how. Insurance companies, attorneys, and
corporations assign this effort rightly expect an alertness to critical
information which enhances, mitigates, exculpates or clarifies the perceived
degree of exposure of the matter involved. The interview, pivotal in many
instances, is used as a critical tool to establish the overall cost effectiveness
of whether to continue the litigation engagement or resolve the dispute
by alternative methods.
The investigator must be judicious and
regard the interview as a process to be tailored according to the unique
characteristics of a particular matter. Balance the interview with direct,
assertive questions, revisiting those questions as necessary. Cloak the
interview with engaging conversation and friendly, gently placed, non offensive
or argumentative, adversarial interrogation. Be quick, well-organized,
kind and courteous. Regardless of how often one has handled a matter involving
substantially similar dynamics, the old rule of thumb applies-- the best
questions are informed questions. Research and prepare for an interview.
Gather as much information as you can about the particular incident and
subject that you are about to interview. A detailed briefing with counsel
of the key elements of the case is recommended.
Interview the subject in an environment
in which he is comfortable. Create a zone of comfort and an advocate. If
that requires meeting the interviewee in his car, office, evening walk,
or on the side seat of a backhoe, it is recommended that you do so. You
will find a lunch or early dinner meeting beneficial for a number of reasons.
The location is neutral, non-threatening, (especially if selected by the
subject) and gives you an opportunity to get acquainted. A genuine warming
up of the relationship is key to successfully obtaining information, but
you must always be interviewing the subject from the very moment you first
contact him. Approach each interview with the attitude that there is absolutely
no reason for the subject not to want to tell you what he knows about a
given matter. He is telling you what he knows, truthfully presumably, but
with some anticipated inherent bias from what his recall is of the event.
If the subject has agreed to meet with
you over dinner or lunch, he has, by implication, agreed to spend at least
the better part of an hour with you. Proper preparation, placing the subject
at ease and not immediately whipping out a notepad or tape recorder add
to your leverage in obtaining the complete, unfettered information you
seek. Most people have a tendency to be ill-at-ease and circumspect when
copious notes are being made or a recorder is being used. However, you
will often be able to justify the use of a recorder with a reluctant witness
by suggesting that reliance on your memory may not be in the best interest
of the witness since you would not want to inadvertently misquote him.
Further explanation for not relying on hand-written notes is the notes
are contemporaneous, are self-edited, usually in industry jargon and in
a personally devised shorthand. Notes alone may not be sufficient to impart
the significance of perceived key points this particular witness may deem
of great importance to the overall factual scenario of the involved event.
A recording memorializes in perpetuity, not only the story being told,
but the complete dynamics with emphasis points of what has happened from
the witness¹s point of view. In addition, any argument at a later
time as to whether the question was leading and the answer responsive is
more easily determined. Avoid the use of legally significant terms such
as statement, affidavit or declaration until the interview has been concluded.
Any attempt to elicit information with an authoritative, menacing, hard-boiled
or demanding position, as opposed to one seeking the assistance of the
witness, might prove disappointing.
On occasion, even after all of this rapport
building, the subject will still be reluctant to be recorded or allow you
to take notes. However, it is difficult to accept that someone will refuse
to at least talk to some extent about a particular event, so ask permission
to audio record, in the subject¹s presence, spontaneous notes while
you are speaking with him. This approach has succeeded, when other efforts
have failed, even in situations when left standing on the front porch stoop
in front of a closed and locked screen door of a subject¹s dwelling.
This technique has been especially successful in those situations where
cooperation with anyone not a member of the community is looked upon with
suspicion by other members of the neighborhood who might become aware of
the interview or even may have been involved in the event. During the process
of dictating notes, inquire of the subject as to the accuracy of your dictation
of his personal knowledge of what he has just told you and have him concur
with that accuracy on the record. At the end of the spontaneously recorded
note making, have the subject reaffirm under the penalty of perjury that
what you have dictated reflects accurately what the subject has related
to you. This recorded note taking can be verbatim if you wish. Interviewees
have been known to jump into the recording while you continue to record
to correct your inaccurate depiction of what they may have just said to
you.
In preparation for the interview make it
a practice to write out single word prompts of essential and significant
points that need to be covered. Your paperwork should be kept to a minimum
to avoid the distraction of fumbling through paper for supplemental or
important information. It is beneficial to explain the process in lay terms
to the subject before the interview. This develops a level of trust, reduces
a reluctance not to be of assistance, demonstrates how benign, innocuous
and painless the process truly is. The sincerity of your intent and the
demonstrated friendliness allay any inherent fear of the witness. Your
genuine curiosity about the witness, his family, personal interests and
well being, and not just the purpose of the visit, assist in the development
of a level of mutual comfort. When coordinated appropriately, the interview
process will be viewed as no big deal, while the interviewee¹s personal
knowledge about the event becomes the predominant focus.
If successful, you will have gained several
additional advantages, such as the witness's willingness to meet or talk
with you a second time for follow-up clarification or the service of process
at a later date. In most instances, a second, or sometimes third meeting,
or teleconference will become necessary. Rarely will you walk away from
an interview having felt that you have obtained the answers to all the
questions that will ultimately need to be answered by a particular witness.
The witness usually knows of other witnesses
even when he believes to the contrary. He may have a thread of information
that he learned at the event site that will assist you in locating other
witnesses. This is an opportune time to obtain these potentially key pieces
of information as well as supporting, identifying and subsequent location
information of the interviewee. Anchoring addresses and future contact
sources of individuals not then residing with the interviewee should be
obtained in the event that the witness moves and needs to be found at a
later date.
When the witness seems to be reluctant
about either submitting to or continuing an interview, try finding matters
of common interest that may not necessarily be related to the matter that
you are there to discuss. On occasion asking of a hypothetical question
that is factually inaccurate may motivate the witness to tell you just
how wrong you are, therein providing you with the insight you wanted and
needed. This approach has also been known to bring the witness back to
a modicum level of cooperation, giving him the opportunity to demonstrate
how much more he knows than you. It is well accepted that eye witnesses¹
and percipient witnesses¹ recall of a particular event can be unreliable.
Therefore it is most important that you not only glean from the witness
what he knows, but equally, and in some cases more importantly, what he
does not know. As long as you can keep the subject talking, the more likely
you are of obtaining the necessary detailed information you seek.
If a witness expresses a concern about
becoming involved in what he believes is a nightmarish, out of control
civil legal system, it might be appropriate to show concern, and provide
reassurance that with his cooperation, protracted litigation is less likely,
thus the lack of a need for his continued involvement. You may wish to
obliquely suggest that his cooperation could help rein in what he perceives
to be out of control, but lack of cooperation may propel the system he
complains about, further out of control, unabated. Move on to the point
of obtaining the information that you are there to obtain. No matter how
reluctant or apprehensive the witness, with polite assertiveness always
try again, explaining that without knowing what he knows and having to
return to your client with a report that the subject has elected not to
cooperate might result in a subpoena for his deposition, creating an adversarial,
less conducive situation for continuation of a much preferred less formal
cooperative dynamic. This is critical when the witness may have already
been interviewed by others.
If he has been interviewed previously,
determine who did the interview and on behalf of whom. If he has a transcript
of the previous interview ask if you may photocopy, or (at a minimum) review
it. This might create an additional opportunity to dictate spontaneous
notes with sometimes critical information being gleaned as well as the
additional premium of discerning the opposition¹s focus of interest.
There are those instances that an interview has not been recorded since
the knowledge related by the witness proved adverse to the interest of
the client. Investigator¹s notes and reports provided at the direction
of counsel were not heretofore discoverable, only the transcript of the
recorded interview, if one was made. However, recent judicial rulings have
tentatively exposed the contemporaneous notes subject to discovery, thereby
eliminating the potential of dodging the discovery bullet of adverse information
which has been learned and is known only to the opposition. If an interview
with a witness was not recorded by someone that preceded you, there is
a reason it was not recorded. There is no better time to discover the reason
than when you first interview the witness.
The witness should be taken through his
version two or three times from different points of view with questions
constructed differently to ensure that he has understood the content of
the original question. In this fashion, you have a degree of comfort that
you have obtained his complete knowledgeable answer. This should be accomplished
chronologically, starting over from step one several times. When the important
details are being recited, slow the subject down, obtain as much detail
as is possible. You will always receive the most interesting details and
in most instances the name of yet another witness that needs to be interviewed
when you directly ask a simple question such as, How do you know that or
what else?
Deceivers and those that tend to embellish,
often provide very complicated versions of even the most simple points
in the false belief that the more complicated the story is, the more credible.
They often have the mistaken belief there is less chance someone will bother
to verify the content of his version if it is complex and convoluted. Often
that which is not apparently important initially, becomes extremely important
at a later date when new factual material is discovered. Never be impatient.
Even though you may have another opportunity for a subsequent discussion,
conduct each interview as if it were the only interview you will ever have
with this subject. Make it a practice to determine exactly where the witness
was standing and in what direction that witness was facing when the involved
event happened, the elapsed time from awareness of the event to knowledge
retention about the actual event. Reconstruct mentally and probe the inconsistencies
and the implausible, then and there, and have the witness more fully explain
his view of what he thinks he may have seen. What was he wearing, where
had he come from, who was he with and who did he expect to visit or his
reason for being in the event area at the time of the event. What plans
did he have or conversation was he having and with whom moments before
the event, what was the temperature, what were the sounds around them other
then the event happening, as well as any other potential available distractions
such as the use of a cell phone should be noted.
It is a very good policy to visit the event
location prior to the interview. Another approach is to meet with the witness
at the event location. If the latter is arranged, arrive early so you can
assess the location independent of input from the subject. Always determine
and use reference points at the location that are not likely to change
or be removed. The advantage is that minutiae and factually important material
long forgotten or recessed into the witness¹s memory will often come
rushing back to the consciousness resulting in your obtaining some surprising
new previously undiscovered details. Listen carefully and do not jump the
answer to one question with yet another question. The investigator must
suspend his theory about the event at the beginning of the interview, open
his mind, listen intently, focus, concentrate and let the witness do the
talking. The most thorough, comprehensive and compelling interviews are
conducted with all your senses on the alert, the eyes, (observation) ears
( active non-interruptive listening) and voice (modulation).
Concluding any interview under the penalty
of perjury is always a good approach to eliminate any possible allegations
of impropriety in the process of the interview by preempting such arguments
with the affirmation that you have neither offered or promised any compensation
for his cooperation, which is totally voluntary. Affirm that you neither
forced or coerced in any manner his cooperation. In those instances wherein
you are required to reimburse someone for his professional time or missed
employment to meet and confer with you, make it a part of the official
record to avoid challenge at a later date and always obtain third source
verification for the amount involved. Lastly, obtain acknowledgment that
the subject has been or is aware that the interview is being recorded.
In conclusion, it is beneficial to obtain the answers to the question of
what else. You will often be surprised by the factual information that
you will learn from the answer to this rather catch-all question. Often,
a person simply is not aware of how much personal knowledge he has of a
given situation until you, the inquisitor, elicits and stimulates his rusty
memory tapes.
When properly done, the investigator remains
firmly at the top of the slope as does the case and the merits of the case.
Accomplished improperly the investigator and the case being handled as
well as the merits of it rapidly slips down the slippery slope to a much
diminished position and potential for appropriate resolution.
ACKNOWLEDGMENT:
Thank you to Mr. Eric Nalder of the Seattle
Times for providing me with comprehensive interview results and how it
is accomplished by the truly professional media in interviewing reluctant
witnesses¹ or the designated "spin controller" of a corporation as
well as the elected governmental personality as contained in his article
entitled "Loosening Lips" the "Art of the Interview". |